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In this clip of the I’m Black, He’s Mexican Podcast Arizona Verse & Soul Papo wax philosophically about Matt Damon’s views on diversity.

During an episode of HBO’s reality competition show Project Greenlight, in which Damon and Ben Affleck award a $3 million film budget to aspiring filmmakers competing to direct the same script , Damon found himself in a heated debate with Effie Brown, a successful black film producer.

When the fellow panelists showed their surprise at Brown’s choice, she stressed the importance of choosing a diverse directing team that could properly deal with the issue of the only black character in the film being a prostitute.

Matt Damon has since apologized after sparking an uproar in the season premiere of HBO’s “Project Greenlight” by explaining diversity in film to a successful black woman producer.